Showing posts with label ebay. Show all posts
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Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Analyzing eBay's Controversial Fee Changes for the Spring Release

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From ChannelAdvisor Blog:

Earlier this year eBay announced their first big release of 2011 (internally SR11.1 - externally the Spring release). There's a ton of changes in here and we'll be hosting a webinar that digs into the impact for our customers (but anyone is welcome to join) - watch for an announcement on that, we're still scheduling it.

There's a ton of information and discussion available on the Spring release such as:

  • eBay details are here
  • A handy checklist from eBay is here
  • There's a set of lively discussions (warning time sink) on eBay discussion boards here.
  • AuctionBytes has great coverage here with an interesting look at what looks to have been a very contentious Town Hall meeting (I missed it unfortunately).

As I've talked to sellers about the changes, the overwhelming topic is the Fee changes announced in the Spring release, so I wanted to focus on those here as there is a ton of angst, misinformation, fear, and uncertainty around the changes.

There are five overall topics to cover the fee changes:

  • What are the fee changes? Sometimes it feels like you need a PHD in Calculus to understand the eBay fees - this is our attempt to simplify the changes for you.
  • What are they thinking?! A brief look at why eBay would do this.Who is impacted? Here we break down those overall types of sellers are impacted (both positively and negatively)
  • What should I do? if you are negatively impacted, here we go through some of the options you have to counteract what is effectively a price increase for you.
  • Top Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - Here I'll go over some shorter topics that we're getting a bunch of questions that also have a lot of misinformation out there.

Before jumping in, let me state that I've been thinking eBay should do this for a long time (2006 looks like my earliest mention). The reasoning back then was that eBay has always struggled with high S+H costs on the site. Before 2006 you used to see the extremes of items for a penny with $100 S+H - total fee avoidance and a terrible consumer solution. eBay caught on and implemented caps, but they have their own challenges (highlighted in that 06 post, so won't go into that again).

I still believe that charging FVF on item price as well as shipping is the single best way to stop excessive shipping amounts and it's good to see eBay finally addressing this. However, I do wish they had thought through the negative impact to a lot of types of sellers that we'll get into later.

Let's look at the fee changes and then jump into the why and who is impacted aspects.

What are the fee changes?

Historically, Amazon, PayPal and many other e-commerce vendors have charged a % of sales on both the item price and the shipping price. eBay announced that they are moving to this model with the Spring release. To help with the economic impact they are lowering the Final Value Fee (FVF in eBay-speak) across the board.

I've been working on simplifying things and here's my best attempt: (click to enlarge)

Ebay_fees
Note: FP is Fixed Price, CE is Consumer Electronics, CSA is Clothing Shoes and accessories, P+A is Parts and accessories (eBay Motors) and of course these FVFs now apply to item AND ship price!

FVFs have tranches at < $50 and then at $1000, eBay's changes are all to the $50 tier except CSA/P+A which also knocks a percent off the second tranche. So if you are in those categories and your average selling price (ASP) is > $50, you may have additional savings.

Here's an example to show the impact.

I'm a CE seller. My ASP is $50 and I charge $8 in S+H

Before: FVF is 8% * $50 = $4

After: FVF is 7% * ($50+$8) = $4.06

(this one ends up to be effectively neutral)

What are they thinking?! (The 'why')

eBay spends a lot of time thinking through fee changes so in my experience it's usually interesting to approach changes from the 'why' standpoint first vs. the 'what'. It's clear that eBay is trying to dramatically change the shipping picture on eBay. While the caps have helped, there's still only about 30% of items sold that have free shipping. I imagine Amazon Prime and SuperSaver programs are behind this. eBay also has stated many times that in buyer surveys the number one concern with eBay is excessive shipping charges.

In fact you can back into what eBay must feel is not excessive by multiplying the decrease for your category times your ASP. For example, you have a $50 ASP in the CSA category. At a 17% decrease, you are looking at $50*.17 = $8.33 shipping that would keep your economics neutral.

Also based on comments, it looks like eBay is trying to underprice Amazon with these efforts as well.

Finally, this fee change hits low ASP items, larger auction sellers and heavy item sellers pretty hard, so eBay is sending a pretty clear signal to these sellers.

With that in mind, let's look at who is impacted.

Who is impacted?

If you refer to the table at the top of the post, it was designed to help you think through the 'am I seeing an increase or decrease'. Simply look at your eBay ASP and your average shipping. if the ratio of your shipping is higher than the FVF fee decrease you are seeing a net increase. If your ratio is lower, you are seeing a net decrease. To keep it simple, we've calculated the 'break even point' for four categories and five different ASP bands illustrated here:

Breakeven

Note: This table is not 100% exact, but very close as it does not go through all the multi-tranche math.

The winners:

The biggest winners (they see a fee decrease) are:

  • Sellers already doing free shipping. If you were already moved over to free shipping, this is a HUGE win for you.
  • Sellers with a item/ship ratio lower than the decrease. In other words if your shipping is generally lower than these break even points in the chart above - congrats, you WIN.

Examples of winners:

I'm a media seller with an ASP of $12 and free ship:

Before: $12* 15% = $1.8

After: $12 * 13% = $1.56 (#WINNING!)

This amounts to a 13% fee decrease The seller could pocket the winnings, or pass it on to the consumer in the form of lower prices.

The second example is:

I'm a CSA seller with a $50 ASP and I charge $5 for S+H (my item/shipping ratio is 10% which is below the 17% fee difference).

Before: 12% * $50 = $6

After: 10% * ($50+$5) = $5.50

I'm saving $.50 or 8.3% in this scenario.

The losers

The biggest losers in this change can be put into three buckets:

  • Low ASP sellers, not offering free shipping already
  • Heavy/bulky item sellers
  • Traditional auction businesses

Low ASP sellers

If you sell items for < $10 and charge shipping, most likely this is a pretty substantial increase for you.

Example: I'm a cell phone accessory seller with $7 ASP and I charge $5

Before: 8% * $7 = $.56

After: 7% * ($7+$5) = $.84 - a 50% fee increase!

Heavy/bulky item sellers

There a lot of categories on eBay where due to the weight or volume of the items, the shipping costs are just simply high. Off the top of my head these include: Business and industrial, lots of auto parts, lots of sporting goods, lots of home and garden items, many computers and TVs.

Example: I sell baby strollers for $200 and $40 shipping (my cost)

Before: 12% * $200 = $24

After: 11% * ($200 + $40) = $26.4 - a 10% fee increase!

Traditional auction businesses

Unfortunately, this change will hit the traditional auction businesses the hardest. I feel really bad for this group because they've been taking it on the chin for years now and I think this is the final straw for most of them. The problem is these sellers have a business model predicated on low starting points. Endless tests have shown that free shipping doesn't really change the bidding from consumers (which goes 180 degrees against what eBay is telling us that consumers pay more for free shipping, but I digress).

Example: I'm a $.01 no-reserve auction CD seller with ASP of $4 and (capped) shipping of $3.

Before: 9% * $4 = $.36

After: 8% * $7 = $.49 ---> A 36% fee increase

Thirteen cents doesn't seem like much, but a ~40% fee increase essentially puts these guys in a bad spot, even those with higher ASPs.

What should I do?

If you are a winner (which will be the overall majority), you should think about how to spend those extra profits - let them drop to the bottom line, lower prices, invest in other parts of your business?

You should also look at offering free shipping. Now your fees don't matter either way so no harm in trying free shipping. eBay's research seems to show it's the most important thing, so if you have a $50+5 item, why not try $55+0. I have to admit, I'm a little sceptical here and it really all depends on the eBay search engine/BestMatch.

Losers - low ASP sellers and heavy item sellers

If you are in one of these two categories and you are seeing a huge fee increase you have these options:

  • Sell on other channels - we've been telling this story for 10yrs and it still is the single best way to make sure your business isn't disrupted by any changes at a single e-commerce channel.
  • Raise your prices - You're going to need to raise your prices if you can't absorb lower margins.
  • Lower your costs/profits - If you eat the fee increase, you'll have a decrease in profitability which you'll need to either absorb or find a way to fund through costs of goods, automation, better shipping prices from your vendor.

Losers - Traditional auction sellers

Unfortunately the only option of the three above that is open to traditional auction sellers is the 'make less money'. Because most of their shipping is capped and they can't control pricing due to the auction format, they are pretty much going to have to either eat the increase or dramatically switch business models.

Many sellers are saying this is the complete end of the auction format, I don't think so, eBay seems to want consumers to use the format as it is offering 50 auctions/month for free listing while at the same time they are making the format unattractive for larger businesses.

Top FAQs

Q: What if I have multiple shipping rates (free up to next-day/expedited?)

A: eBay will charge the FVF on the lowest domestic rate - another strong encouragement to have free shipping, even if it is very slow.

Q: What happens with my International business?

A: eBay will charge the FVF on the lowest domestic rate, NOT your international rates. So this shouldn't change your CBT strategy

Q: Is Tax included too?!

A: No.

Q: When do these changes roll out?

A: Auctions - 4/19/11 and Fixed-price 7/6/11

Saturday, September 25, 2010

eBay fixes one of the biggest holes in DSR system

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When eBay launched the DSR system, people were always concerned with the fact that sellers that offer free shipping generally received 4.8 on the shipping and handling cost DSR. It proved that the system sets up unrealistic expectations with consumers.

At the end of August, eBay somewhat quietly (no AB post, just a tweet+post from their blogger?) rolled out a significant improvement to the system.

If a seller offers free shipping, and the buyer chooses that option, then the seller automatically gets a 5 star on the shipping and handling cost DSR.

Saturday, September 4, 2010

eBay's Shtick in a Box: Reusable Shipping Container Is Innovation Expo-Winning Idea

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EBay is perhaps the ultimate online destination for used goods, so it only makes sense that the site is taking its hand-me-down sensibilities a step further with the eBay Box: a shipping container designed to be sent from sellers to buyers and back until the container becomes a soggy heap of post-recycled mud. The box, which is made out of 100% FSC-certified material, features water-based inks and requires minimal tape to close.

The box idea was the grand prize winner at eBay's annual Innovation Expo, a celebration of creative ideas from eBay employees. Designed for "simple green shipping," eBay believes that a single box reused five times could save nearly 4,000 trees, 2.4 million gallons of water, and conserve enough energy to juice up 49 homes for a year.

EBay will send out a pilot run of 100,000 boxes in October to all sellers who request them. Recipients can log on to a special website to report on the status of their boxes (and track them as they move from place to place), and after a few months, eBay will evaluate the program and figure out how to proceed.

Sunday, August 1, 2010

eBay's Summer release

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From the Channel Advisor Blog:

eBay announced the set of changes that will roll out this Summer (July 27, 2010) - this is their second set this year and they are already talking about a third set coming in the Fall. I would classify this release as very incremental - nothing earth shattering here, but as a package there are some good improvements that have a (hopefully) minor impact on sellers and a large positive impact on buyers.

There's a lot of material available on the changes so I'm going to focus on highlights - if you want details:

  • eBay announcement is here
  • eBay details are here
  • Auctionbytes coverage is here
  • eBay blog coverage is here

Summary of changes

  • eBay is adding buyer claims to the eTRS designation in addition to the DSR stars
  • eBay is making item condition required
  • They are eliminating featured first - thus putting the final nail in the coffin of all featured listings.
  • They are making email communications anonymous (this is the third time on this one, maybe it will stick this time)

Impact on sellers

The macro impact on sellers for this release is pretty minor. If you are a seller that doesn't respond to claims, don't provide condition and drive a lot of sales off featured first listings, this is a bad release for you, but frankly that's probably a good thing - that's a good transition to the buyer view.

Impact on buyers

If I had to give a short summary of 10.2, I would call it the "catching up on the buyer experience" release - especially around the trust side of things.

Some of these probably surprise many people that aren't hard-core eBayers that they are holes that were not plugged already. For example, why would you ever allow a seller to list an item and NOT provide condition? Certainly that sets up buyer expectations to be horribly missed.

As eBay focuses on NPS (more details on this later), I think they are finding some common themes that I would call legacy loopholes and are working to close them.

Deep thoughts on 10.2

I'm a software guy, so I think in terms of major (2.0 -> 3.0), minor (2.0 -> 2.1) and very minor (2.01 -> 2.02). This is a 'very minor' release in my view. That's not a knock on eBay or anything - it's very hard to do three major or even two major and a minor release a year at eBay's scale. It will definitely be interesting to see if the last (10.3 or 'Fall') release is minor or major (I doubt it will be 'very minor').

In isolation, it's great that eBay remains focused on improving the buyer experience and that they are fixing some of these long standing problem areas.

I'm also glad to see featured finally get phased out (although this view isn't popular with a lot of sellers). My reasoning is that the family of upgrades like 'featured' exist to subvert the relevancy of the eBay search engine. If the search engine is doing it's job (ahem), then the best items will automatically be surfaced and featured will, by its very nature, be less relevant. Google has proven over and over again that relevancy is what searchers/buyers want and respond to and it's great to see eBay getting this religion finally.

All that being said, I continue (starting to feel like a broken record here - sorry long-time readers!) to believe that the eBay search engine isn't improving at a pace it needs to.

Out of isolation, eBay is losing share in e-commerce and massively to Amazon. The search experience is the key to closing that gap and it's disheartening to have a release where search hasn't taken a step forward (other than the minor featured piece).

In fact, with the 3/31 changes that rolled out, eBay's search engine took some steps backwards as the flood of listings came on the site out of the store format.

Friday, March 19, 2010

Three quick eBay items-YAeST (Yet Another Ebay Selling Tool), Paypal split speculation increases and eBay Bucks

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From the eBay Strategies blog:

YAeST - Yet Another eBay Selling Tool - Earlier this week at Microsoft's developer conference called Mix, we are hearing that eBay announced a new seller tool based on Microsoft's Silverlight technology. Details are thin, but here are some links that shed some light:

  • The new tool is to be called the eBay Simple Lister and was introduced at a key note by eBay VP of Product Development, Raji Arasu
  • There's a session which has this in the description: Come see how eBay is enhancing the listing experience for the occasional sellers with the eBay Simple Lister application. Learn how the application was built from concept to design to code using Sketchflow and Silverlight 4."
  • You can read a transcript of the keynote here:
  • There's a screenshot here

So apparently the key features is a web-cam based barcode scanner to pull in the UPC. I haven't seen this, but can tell you that the last thing we need in the eBay world is yet another way to list. The universe of SYI, TurboLister, Blackthorne, SellerManager, SellerManagerPro, etc. is already hard enough to navigate and keep up to date - now they are throwing another tool in the mix. Uggg.

Paypal Split / rename speculation

Paypal has been on fire lately with news:

  • They are growing in China
  • They have a cool new bump app for the iPhone
  • An IBM relationship
  • eBay management has been out banging the drum with analysts - frequently in Paypal only talks

This activity has speculation running rampant again on a Paypal split from eBay. Specifically the NY Times ran a piece today with these key points:

  • eBay’s parts are worth $37 billion, or a premium of more than 20 percent to the company’s current enterprise value. It’s time for PayPal to prepare to leave the nest.
  • The company estimates PayPal will generate up to $1 billion in operating profit next year. Put this conservatively on the same multiple as the slower-growing Visa, and its value is over $12 billion, or approaching half eBay’s current enterprise value.
  • ....its other businesses should generate around $2 billion in operating profit this year. Put this on a hefty 25 percent discount to the 13 times multiple on which peers trade, and it’s worth $23 billion according to research from FBR Capital Markets.

Donahoe has consistently said it doesn't make sense given the synergies, but with the attention they have been lavishing on that part of the business, it makes you wonder. Also, I can definitely see the 'sum of the parts' argument working to unlock shareholder value, so we'll have to keep an eye on this.

Also, remember in my Paypal post, there were some interesting 'inside baseball' nuances that point to an eBay/Paypal drift doing on.

eBay Bucks - a new chapter

We're getting a lot of questions from sellers who have heard about a new twist to the eBay bucks loyalty program. Historically the program offered X% back on all eBay purchases to a beta set of buyers where X typically is 2%. See picture above

As you can see, for select merchants, eBay is now offering deeper cash back (6-10%). Overall, it's good to see this system get with the times and offer more material discounts. We'll be monitoring to see what kind of impact it has for this first wave of participating sellers. I'm still not a fan of the weird 'burn up and burn down' aspect of eBay bucks - no other program really works this way and as a consumer, I think it seriously complicates and reduces the value of the program. So a good move forward for eBay Bucks, but it's still not where it needs to be in my opinion.

The common question we are getting from sellers now is - 'How do I participate in this program?!" and 'who pays?" Stay tuned for more details on this new twist on eBay Bucks.

VIA eBay Strategies

Wednesday, March 10, 2010

Interesting article on the risks eBay faces leaving its roots...

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From Scot Wingo:

I've often argued that if eBay leaves its roots and becomes essentially a fixed-price mall that competed squarely with Amazon, that they may lose that battle. The key is if they can do both - keep the unique and quirky stuff while adding in the fixed-price stuff.

Anthony Mussucci has an article over at Daily Finance that you can find here, that nails that view better than I have been able to. Here's a snippet that I found very succinctly summarizes what I think most of us in eBay-land feel and worry about:

The more eBay morphs into an online retailer and gets away from its roots as an online auction site, the more likely it's fighting a battle it's going to lose. While it's important to establish trust among sellers and buyers on eBay, trying tocompete with Amazon or Walmart and their online guarantees is a waste of time. Even if eBay can match the services offered by other retailers, why would a buyer chose to shop there?

EBay's strengths are in the variety of old, hard-to-find collectible and discounts on new items. That's why people shop at eBay, and if the company moves too far away from that core identity, it may never rediscover its mojo.

SeekingAlpha disclosure - I am long Google and Amazon. eBay is an investor in ChannelAdvisor where I am CEO.

VIA eBay Strategies

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